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Edit request 18 November 2024
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Description of suggested change: The text of the link to the notability criteria in the web declination statement states it links to the notability criteria for websites. But, this declination statement and the linked WP:NWEB guideline is used for all web-based content, not just websites. The updated text should reduce confusion when declining a submission that is web-based but not a website.
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| − | This submission's references do not show that the subject [[Wikipedia:Notability|qualifies for a Wikipedia article]]—that is, they do not show ''significant'' coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in ''published'', [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources|''reliable'']], [[Wikipedia:No_original_research#Secondary|''secondary'']] sources that are ''[[Wikipedia:Independent sources|independent]]'' of the subject (see the [[Wikipedia:Notability (web)|guidelines on the notability of | + | This submission's references do not show that the subject [[Wikipedia:Notability|qualifies for a Wikipedia article]]—that is, they do not show ''significant'' coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in ''published'', [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources|''reliable'']], [[Wikipedia:No_original_research#Secondary|''secondary'']] sources that are ''[[Wikipedia:Independent sources|independent]]'' of the subject (see the [[Wikipedia:Notability (web)|guidelines on the notability of web content]]). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see [[Help:Referencing for beginners|technical help]] and learn about [[Wikipedia:Common sourcing mistakes (notability)|mistakes to avoid]] when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia. |
cyberdog958Talk 09:08, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
Completed. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. put'er there 10:18, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
Edit request 20 November 2024
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Description of suggested change: Implement the ai/llm decline message currently in Template:AfC submission/comments/sandbox, per consensus at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Articles for creation#Current draft text.
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| − | + | |ai|llm = Your draft shows signs of having been generated by a [[large language model]], such as ChatGPT. Their outputs usually have multiple issues that prevent them from meeting our guidelines on writing articles. These include:<br />
* [[WP:NOTPROMO|Promotional tone]], [[MOS:EDITORIAL|editorializing]], and other [[WP:WTW|words to watch]]
* [[WP:VAGUE|Vague]], generic, and [[WP:CRYSTAL|speculative statements]] extrapolated from similar subjects
* [[WP:NOTESSAY|Essay-like writing]]
* [[Hallucination (artificial intelligence)|Hallucinations]] (plausible-sounding, but false information) and [[WP:FAKE|non-existent references]]
* [[WP:Close paraphrasing|Close paraphrasing]]<br />
Please address these issues. The best way to do it is usually to read [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] and summarize them, instead of using a large language model. See [[Wikipedia:Large language models|our help page on large language models]]. |
Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 17:04, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- Done * Pppery * it has begun... 04:47, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- I submitted a ticket in AfC helper to support this option Ca talk to me! 06:26, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- Made a pull request for it, it should be reviewed soon! Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 07:26, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
Template-protected edit request on 3 December 2024
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In the "Where to get help" section should the suggestion to go to the "AfC Help Desk" be a link to the actual help desk page? KylieTastic (talk) 14:36, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
Not done normally, maybe - but in this case there is a link to a wizard for that page and the goal is to get new users to use that wizard instead of trying to use the editor to add their question. — xaosflux Talk 14:59, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
Instructions unclear due to poor grammar
[edit]- Warning: The page Article already exists. Please ensure it is not a copy or that this page is located to the correct title.
Is the underlined text supposed to be read as "located at" or "relocated to"? Please fix that if you can. – MrPersonHumanGuy (talk) 23:25, 6 March 2025 (UTC)
- Looks like a grammar error to me. It comes from Special:Diff/856957555 where
Please verify that it is not a copy of this submission and that this page does not need to be moved to a different title.
was shortened toPlease verify that it is not a copy of this submission or that this page is located to the correct title.
Pinging @Headbomb, who made the edit, in case there's a grammar subtlety I've missed. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 23:52, 6 March 2025 (UTC)
Template-protected edit request on 22 March 2025
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For the decline reason notenglish, change "Have you visited the Wikipedia home page? You can probably find a version of Wikipedia in your language." to "Otherwise, you may be able to find a version of Wikipedia in your language at the Wikipedia home page and write the article there."
IMO, this sounds more formal and the previous wording has a question, which the other decline reasons do not have. ~ Rusty meow ~ 16:00, 22 March 2025 (UTC)
- I agree with this change, the current version also sounds more condescending than your proposal. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 18:52, 22 March 2025 (UTC)
- Completed. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. put'er there 06:05, 23 March 2025 (UTC)
Unhelpful
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Template-protected edit request on 24 April 2025
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I recently created {{AfC notice shell}}, which serves an analogous purpose to {{WikiProject banner shell}}, but for instances of {{AfC submission}} on drafts. However, the submission template uses {{ombox}}, which makes itself somewhat narrow than... wherever it is displayed. Although that is fine for general display, it results in a significant mismatch of width when placed inside the holder.
Prior draft decline notices
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Description of suggested change: Add the parameter wide to {{AfC submission/declined}}.
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| − | + | {{{{#ifeq:{{{wide|}}}|yes|Fmbox|Ombox}}
| templatestyles = AfC submission/styles.css
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Then, if {{AfC submission/declined|wide=yes}} or {{AfC submission|D|wide=yes}} are inserted within the notice holder, the result should look something like this:
Prior draft decline notices
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I first suggested both the template and the parameter at Wikipedia:Village pump (idea lab) § What to do about prior draft decline notices, where you may wish to comment. – MrPersonHumanGuy (talk) 12:21, 24 April 2025 (UTC)
Question: Why is this not being prototyped at Template:AfC submission/declined/sandbox, and why is it not being tested at Template:AfC submission/declined/testcases? See WP:TESTCASES. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 16:47, 25 April 2025 (UTC)-
- I oppose this change as it will cause reviewers to make another action (click show) in order to properly review a draft. Each action just takes more time. S0091 (talk) 17:47, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
- So is the notice shell just collapsing prior reviews? Because if so I’m gonna have to be mildly against this as it is just creating extra steps for.. aesthetics? Sophisticatedevening🍷(talk) 18:11, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
- I oppose this change as it will cause reviewers to make another action (click show) in order to properly review a draft. Each action just takes more time. S0091 (talk) 17:47, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
