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Tianjin University of Traditional Chinese Medicine First Affiliated Hospital

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While some sources exist (e.g. [1]), they are not independent secondary sources or otherwise not WP:SIGCOV, and this hospital then fails WP:GNG. GTrang (talk) 03:55, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It is as known as The First Teaching Hospital of Tianjin University of Traditional Chinese Medicine.In the field of medical academia, research related to this hospital is widely available. Moreover, when searching in its native language, Chinese, even more information can be found. This hospital is a Class A tertiary hospital, the highest tier of public hospitals in China.[2][3][4] Amazingloong (talk) 05:22, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Tianjin Fourth Central Hospital

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Similar to the case of Tianjin University of Traditional Chinese Medicine First Affiliated Hospital, this hospital also appears to fail WP:GNG. GTrang (talk) 03:58, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Samson Mow

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promo nonsense about a dude who has a job with lots of fancy wikilinked words, but no meaningful independent coverage of him or his companies - in any language. It's all PR and passing mentions, if Mow is even mentioned at all. BUNNYDICAE🐇 20:40, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - The article needs a cleanup, but has enough sources to meet WP:BIO. -- Itzcuauhtli11 (talk) 14:37, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Teng Lin

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This fails WP:NACTOR. All sources are none WP:RS Ednabrenze (talk) 07:30, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

i've add links to biographical data, the sources can only be found in his own social media livestream as short drama actors info are in general lacking online. I've included the link and even the timestamp at which he mentioned those biographical data Laiwingnang (talk) 10:07, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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also want to mention such info are usually hard to come by because short drama actors are not signed to any publicist or angecies..so they don't have staff to register them with movie databases, fans have to get that info from their livestreams, from social media, but fact is short vertical dramas are highly popular in china with hundreds of millions views/social media engagement and are now being seen by millions on youtube/tiktok internationally through many drama apps, they are more relevant than many mainstream actors from china. Laiwingnang (talk) 13:19, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

added a reference for his short dramas, they are listed in a WeChat application named WeTrue. It's a market data research company used by short drama industry insiders...but it is a built in app inside china's wechat and requires a wechat app installation to access the data. A link to their www feed page is added, any link on that page will give you a link to the wetrue application, upon clicking the application link will launch the data application on wechat. Laiwingnang (talk) 10:11, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Has he been profiled in any reliable sources such as newspapers or magazines? Cunard (talk) 23:23, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per the lack of significant coverage in reliable sources. I did not find significant coverage in my searches for sources. I found a passing mention here and a self-published source here. Teng Lin (Chinese: 滕林) does not meet Wikipedia:Notability (people)#Basic criteria. Cunard (talk) 23:23, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
the industry used wechat app wetrue is a more reliable source than the ones you mentioned, it's the imdb for chinese short dramas. What you referenced are mainstream news outlet paid to write articles for agencies to hype up their stars. It's pay per play. Fact is Teng Lin is at 200k followers on china's douyin with an total of over 3 million likes and many chart topping popular short drama just in the last 12 months, many of the c-list musicians, actors who doesn't have a hit with next to no followers get to have a wikipage because their agency pumps articles about them and register them with all types of websites. China isn't America, they are not stuck in the www page age, apps like weTrue or dataeye are used by millions of drama fans and industry insiders for chart data and new releases. They are more reliable sources even if they aren't through http. They don't rely on www page that probably gets like 50 clicks. That's really an American thing. Laiwingnang (talk) 09:40, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

also want to mention, his short film trailers have millions of views on tiktok...he's not only relevant within, china, but also internationally. His recent dramas are getting subbed by kalostv, reelflicks, flicksreel and other drama apps and many are amongst the most watched short dramas internationally. Alot of activities are happening on apps , www news site gatekeeping pay per play is 2010s. Laiwingnang (talk) 09:59, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

spotify is on app, social media is on apps, netflix in on apps, in 2025, most of what the public consume is on apps, so should short drama apps like wetrue or dataeye be considered as legit sources as well Laiwingnang (talk) 10:04, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

https://www.52hrtt.com/ey/n/w/info/G1732591212530

if you want a www article, here's one...the first short drama awards and Teng Lin won one of the 3 actor awards. He's one of the top short drama actors , doesn't make him less relevant just because he doesn't have an agency to pay for written articles Laiwingnang (talk) 11:22, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

he's also on douban, china's imdb ....so googling might not show you results, but it's there

https://movie.douban.com/celebrity/1563988/movies?sortby=time&format=pic&role=A1 Laiwingnang (talk) 23:28, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

here's another stock exchange listed entertainment info company https://ir-en.maoyan.com/ that has teng lin listed https://m.maoyan.com/asgard/celebrity/3071840

so it's not true that his info isn't on the internet, it's google's algo that isn't giving search results Laiwingnang (talk) 14:26, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Huijiwiki

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Searches did not turn up enough in-depth coverage from independent, reliable sources to support meeting WP:GNG. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 15:30, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per the lack of significant coverage in reliable sources. The sources I found were passing mentions and unreliable sources. Huijiwiki (simplified Chinese: 灰机wiki; traditional Chinese: 灰機wiki; lit. 'Gray Machine Wiki') does not meet Wikipedia:Notability (web)#Criteria. Cunard (talk) 21:57, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Most of the sources are either passing mentions or not reliable enough. The subject does not meet the notability criteria for websites. Ambrosiawater (talk) 04:29, 27 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: Huijiwiki is cited in multiple papers:

吕明芳 (2019). 功能对等视角下游戏本地化翻译策略探讨与反思 ——以游戏《文明Ⅵ》为例 [A Study and Reflection on Game Localization Translation Strategies from the Perspective of Functional Equivalence -- Taking the Game "Civilization VI" as an Example] (Thesis). Beijing Foreign Studies University. Retrieved 2025-05-01.

杨玲 (2018). 《临高启明》与当代幻想文学中的世界建构 [The World Construction of Lingao Qiming and Contemporary Fantasy Literature]. 济宁学院学报. 39 (1): 51–56. Retrieved 2025-05-01.

刘显. 科幻小说《三体》及改编作品的故事世界研究 [A Study on the Story World of the Science Fiction Novel The Three-Body Problem and its Adaptations] (Thesis). Retrieved 2025-05-01.

郭小嘉 (2022). 论《三体Ⅱ·黑暗森林》日译本的文化意象传递 [On the Transmission of Cultural Images in the Japanese Translation of The Three-Body Problem II: The Dark Forest] (Thesis). 黑龙江大学. Retrieved 2025-05-01.

王昊岚 (2023). MMORPG及其演变分析 ——以《最终幻想》系列为例 [Analysis of MMORPG and Its Evolution -- Taking the Final Fantasy Series as an Example] (Thesis). 天津大学. Retrieved 2025-05-01.

王依婷 (2021-11-19). "zh:审美认同与孙悟空视觉形象的海外流布" [Aesthetic Identity and the Overseas Spread of the Visual Image of Sun Wukong]. 中外文论2021. “跨文化视野下文艺理论批评前沿问题”研讨会暨中国中外文艺理论学会第18届年会. Guilin. pp. 135–150. doi:10.26914/c.cnkihy.2021.083048. Retrieved 2025-05-01. 内存溢出的猫 (talk) 15:35, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for providing these sources 内存溢出的猫 (talk · contribs). Do these sources merely cite Huijiwiki, or do they also discuss Huijiwiki "directly and detail" (quoting from Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline)? Cunard (talk) 01:15, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

That would be enough to support keeping the article. Ahri Boy (talk) 10:31, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Cunard Unfortunately there is no detailed introduction to huijiwiki. They either directly quote or use its content, or use it as a reference—you can tell from the titles of these articles that they are studies of fictional works.

From my personal perspective, this wiki seems to be a (relatively successful) Chinese version of Fandom, at least in terms of fan content, as they are used in journals. I guess that is because in China there lacks other popular websites for creating fandom sub-wikis. But the wiki it does lack sufficient coverage. 内存溢出的猫 (talk) 23:47, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I found an article reposted by the China Digital Science and Technology Museum, originally published in Science Fiction World (the oldest and most popular science fiction magazine & sci-fi book publisher of PRC):

"The 'Lord of the Rings Chinese Wiki' was founded in 2015 by Ser Gawen, the founder of HuijiWiki. Hosted on the HuijiWiki platform, it is an encyclopedia website built entirely by a self-organized group of enthusiasts, dedicated to compiling entries on everything related to J.R.R. Tolkien. The wiki's editing team aims to establish China's premier Tolkien database, providing readers with comprehensive, fact-based, and reliably sourced information. Currently, the site features over three thousand entries, generally sufficient to meet the needs for information lookup."

内存溢出的猫 (talk) 23:58, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

内存溢出的猫 (talk · contribs), thank you for your research! The coverage in Science Fiction World is a great find. I am striking my support for deletion and will be neutral for now. If there is a second source that provides significant coverage like this, I would switch to supporting retention as the website would meet Wikipedia:Notability (web)#Criteria and Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline. Cunard (talk) 06:36, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Comment: As an author of the article, someone who cited some would make me nominate to keep the article. Ahri Boy (talk) 15:16, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hong Kong related deletions

Ma Siu Kwan

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Sources for this article seem to refer back to this article (i.e. an aggregated google book) – might make more sense to merge to one of the team pages if doesn't seem worth a delete. Smallangryplanet (talk) 17:16, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 17:26, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:29, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Anton Street

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This is one of several very tiny side-street connecting two notable roads in Hong Kong. I have searched for WP:SIGCOV in English and Chinese and have not been able to do more than verify that it exists. The Chinese version of this article doesn't contain any further sources to help. I think we could mention it Queen's Road, Hong Kong#Queen's Road East but from what I can find there isn't a lot to add except that it's one of multiple small alley ways connecting two major roads. Zzz plant (talk) 02:34, 23 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge. It is just a minor street. This source mentions that in 1917 Tsui In Lane was widened and renamed Anton Street. This source states that it is named after Charles Edward Anton, Director of Jardine, Matheson & Co. Other sources give it passing mentions. One approach would be to redirect it to Queen's Road East#Anton Street, then expand the entry in the list of intersections in that article as
- (N) > junction with {{anchor|Anton Street}} '''Anton Street''', a short road leading north to [[Hennessy Road]]. Created in 1917 by widening Tsui In Lane.<ref...>... Named after [[Charles Edward Anton]], Director of Jardine, Matheson & Co.<ref....>

That way the gazetteer-type information would be preserved. The other minor streets along Queen's Road East could be treated the same way. Probably less effort to boldly merge them into Queen's Road East than to put them through AfD. Aymatth2 (talk) 18:07, 24 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge seems a good idea, but I think it would look a little undue weighty in that big road article unless all of the intersections were extended beyond a line summary.♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:08, 25 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. All the side roads should be done, including notable ones that retain their own article and ones that turn into redirects. I am not sure I have the energy to do it. Aymatth2 (talk) 13:27, 25 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge/redirect to Queen's Road East#Anton Street as suggested by Aymatth2 per Wikipedia:Deletion policy#Alternatives to deletion. A redirect with the history preserved under the redirect will allow editors to selectively merge any content that can be reliably sourced to the target article. A redirect with the history preserved under the redirect will allow the redirect to be undone if significant coverage in reliable sources is found in the future. Cunard (talk) 07:28, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - to elaborate slightly on my rationale -WP:Articles_for_deletion/St._Francis_Street and WP:Articles for deletion/Wood Road are similar road noms which ended in delete. If you look up Anton St on g-maps you will see it is an almost comically tiny side street, and the only real facts available are that it 1) is one of many alleys in Hong Kong connecting two notable roads and 2) was named after someone notable. My view is that the existing mentions in articlespace are sufficient, and per WP:NOTDIRECTORY I weakly disagree that there is value to preserving the page history via a merge. Zzz plant (talk) 18:01, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Those AfDs were not well-attended and were from six years ago so are not good precedent to argue against a merge. Under Wikipedia:Deletion policy#Alternatives to deletion, when there is a good redirect or merge target as Aymatth2 has identified, that is preferable to deletion. Another merge target could be Charles Edward Anton, the namesake of the street, whose article already mentions the street. Cunard (talk) 07:31, 27 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I prefer to merge to Queen's Road East#Anton Street, since the purpose is to preserve gazeteer-type information, and Queen's Road East is the natural gazeteer parent. I have rearranged Queen's Road East a bit and added an anchor for Anton Street. I am not sure that the table format is ideal for a phone though. Aymatth2 (talk) 22:24, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Relisting comment: better to relist to get more feedback
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Taiwan related deletions