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March 1

Talk page discussions ignored

Good advice has been given. This is the help desk, not a court of appeal. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:32, 2 March 2025 (UTC)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

A consensus is apparently needed for a requested move. Talk:Ghulam Kadir what do I do if it gets ignored solely because the other editors don't want to? RevolutionaryPatriot (talk) 03:37, 1 March 2025 (UTC)

You follow the advice at the top of the relevant section, RevolutionaryPatriot: "editors can strengthen their arguments, discover new ones, and then try again in a few months to garner consensus for these renames" (my emphasis). So far just one (1) day has gone by. I suggest that you do the strengthening/discovering on your hard drive, and on that talk page (and elsewhere in Wikipedia) keep mum about the matter till May at the earliest. -- Hoary (talk) 08:16, 1 March 2025 (UTC)

But then, logically it'll just happen again. So Wikipedia's name change in this scenario can only be in effect if the User's agree, regardless of Wikipedia's name policy that is effectively irrelevant here. RevolutionaryPatriot (talk) 08:28, 1 March 2025 (UTC)

RevolutionaryPatriot, Wikipedia's fundamental decision making process is consensus and in this case, several other editors disagree with you. When it comes to names transliterated from another language using another alphabet, it is often not possible to say with complete confidence that "policy mandates my preferred transliteration". So, when an appropriate time has passed, use your powers of persuasion (as opposed to confrontation) to build consensus for the change that you favor. Cullen328 (talk) 08:43, 1 March 2025 (UTC)

Wikipedia's editors obsessively chase the notion of common name. Wikipedia's fundamental decision making is consensus, only under the pretense of the website's policy being used.

The Naming conventions favour the most used common name, that is definitionally the policy mandating my preferred transliteration.

Your last sentence only makes sense if I didn't type anything at all. It is the duty of the website, Wikipedia to be able to have its policies enforced, even if certain Users disagree with it. This discussion has nothing to do with my duty to persuasion but the duty for a proven course of action to be enforced after an absence of discussion, pretending otherwise is intellectually dishonest. RevolutionaryPatriot (talk) 05:07, 2 March 2025 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Rapidly changing IP performing mass PROD of software stubs

Moved to WP:ANI Helpful Raccoon (talk) 21:37, 1 March 2025 (UTC)

"Bitch" showing on Maps

Resolved

– Slowking Man (talk) 21:20, 1 March 2025 (UTC)

Hi! Not sure if this is the right place to ask, but I figure if it's not someone will be able to point me in the right direction :) Apologies for the crude language in the title!

I was looking at the article for NFC West and noticed a curious entry on the map, next to the marker for the Rams - the word "Bitch". I thought it was just garden variety vandalism that had gone unnoticed so went to edit the article to remove this, however there's no reference to it there.

Looking into it further, it looks like that there's an issue with the map itself - going to the Wikimedia Maps page, at around Zoom Level 6\7, it appears on the map.

I had a look at the Wikimedia Maps pages, and couldn't see a way to report a map issue - despite the only time I've spent in Los Angeles being solely confined to LAX, I am quite confident there isn't an area of LA called "Bitch" and if there is, is it an area of enough significance to show up at such high zoom levels?

Just wondering if there's anyone here who might know what the next steps here might be?

Thanks! Douglas 11:06, 1 March 2025 (UTC)

After looking around for a bit, it looks like this was vandalism on OpenStreetMap, which that map is being loaded from. Community members there already reverted it some hours ago, but it looks like the Wikimedia Maps server had cached the colorful name and displayed it to you. Personally I am not seeing it anymore, so I hope it goes away for you soon. Nyakase (talk • guestbook) 11:36, 1 March 2025 (UTC)

Oh good, thanks for that! :) I'm still seeing but it might be cached either somewhere on my end. Douglas 12:12, 1 March 2025 (UTC)

Perhaps there's a Latin grammar school nearby that a helpful person wanted to add to the map, but they accidentally misspelled the name...

Step 3: with "bitch", just drop the "t"
'Cause "Bich" is Latin for generosity!

--Slowking Man (talk) 21:20, 1 March 2025 (UTC)

Android app: graphs in edit history view

The edit history view in the Android app has a graph at the top, with no axes shown, no label for what either axis would represent if it were shown, and no indication of scale. (It does however have a pale grey grid.) I'm guessing the x-axis probably represents time, measured in either hours, days, months or years, but what does the y-axis represent? Is it

size of the article?
frequency of page views?
frequency of edits?

Does anybody know? Clearly it's meant to tell me something, and someone took the trouble to program it into the app, so it seems a shame not to have any idea what. Musiconeologist (talk) 19:38, 1 March 2025 (UTC)

@Musiconeologist: Okay, so I had fun, of a sort, spending time pulling threads in the app source code and finally got to the prize at the center. Your answer here: phab:T299181. It's a graph of edits to the article in the past year, by # of edits by month. So you were on track.

If wondering how the heck I found that: I went to the source code repository at Github, and traced the logic flow for displaying that edit history screen, and eventually got to the commit which added a REST handler to fetch the metrics: [1]. Don't mention it! I will say, the code could stand to be a bit more richly commented. --Slowking Man (talk) 05:17, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

@Slowking Man Well, it's more fun getting something to work than telling anybody else how it works and depriving them of the fun of working out what weird thing is wrong with it. ;-)
All that discussion of what to do with the extra space, and not one person suggested adding some text like edits by month and the max and min values . . . (I think that's the more useful information—how active the editing is.)
Anyway thanks for tracking that down. It was irritating me each time I looked at an edit history in the app. Musiconeologist (talk) 18:15, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

UK Post office stamp image

Hi Folks!!, Is uk post office stamps images allowed to to be used on Wikipedia. I've seen a few images of stamps posted here and there, some of them seemingly quite recent. These two are from 1965. scope_creep^Talk 23:17, 1 March 2025 (UTC)

c:Commons:Copyright rules by territory/United Kingdom#Stamps. Those two are most likely public domain, though it's conceivable they reuse non-PD artwork. Any dating from much later than that are copyrighted for the author's life+70 years, so would only be usable in articles about the specific stamps themselves. —Cryptic 23:46, 1 March 2025 (UTC)

That's good. Thanks for that @Cryptic: scope_creep^Talk 21:07, 2 March 2025 (UTC)