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April 14

Social and Economic Status of Artists

Hello. Is there an article on Wikipedia about the social and economic status of artists in your country? I'm looking for sourced, historical, and current information. Thank you in advance for your reply, and please excuse any language errors: I'm a French-speaking Belgian. Égoïté (talk) 17:23, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This is a Global English-language encyclopaedia. Which "your country" are you enquiring about? {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.194.109.80 (talk) 18:19, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

USA and other countries with english language (like Great Britain and Australia for example) Égoïté (talk) 19:19, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I am reasonably sure there is no article on the social and economic status of artists in the Anglosphere, per se. I am not aware that this specific combination of concepts has been set apart and treated as a distinct object of study by enough reliable secondary sources to make it "notable", as the Wikipedia term of art has it, so any such article would need to be careful of running afoul of WP:SYNTH. --Trovatore (talk) 19:25, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. I don't plan to publish in English, but in French, and I'm a Wikipedian who's well-versed in the rules of the encyclopedia, with a few quality articles in French of my own. Don't worry ;) I am also interested in documents on the social and economic status of artists in the Soviet Union and Eastern European countries after the breakup of the Soviet Union. Égoïté (talk) 19:58, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I don't know the norms at fr.wiki, but I would be cautious about cobbling together an article from facts here and there, without evidence that someone studies that particular topic.

That said, at our artist article, there is something possibly relevant for you: In the US, fine artists have a median income of approximately US$50,000 per year, and craft artists have a median income of approximately US$33,000 per year. This compares to US$61,000 for all art-related fields, including related jobs such as graphic designers, multimedia artists, animators, and fashion designers. The reference is dated 2016–2017. The intervening years have been a period of relatively high inflation in the US, combined with a narrowing of the income gap between the two ends of the middle class, so I would imagine it's probably significantly higher by now. --Trovatore (talk) 20:38, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. Was there a performing artists' union before 1936 and AGMA (American Guild of Musical Artists)? If so, which one(s)? Does AGMA have one or more competitors in 2025? Égoïté (talk) 08:45, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The rules of the French Wikipedia are basically the same as here: no original research (unpublished work); no synthesis of published results based on an original interpretation. A compilation of data from various reliable sources without a synthesizing interpretation is generally unproblematic; otherwise we could not have articles such as List of poets portraying sexual relations between women. ‑‑Lambiam 09:31, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Lists are a bit different; you can list things according to widely varying organizing criteria. It's more of a problem if you abstract out a concept and give it a name. --Trovatore (talk) 19:18, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

We have articles on Adult lifetime cannabis use by country, Breakfast by country, Censorship by country, ..., so why no Socio-economic status of artists by country? ‑‑Lambiam 22:41, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your contributions, which seem very sensible to me, Lambiam.

I'll ask the question again:

Was there a performing artists' union before 1936 and AGMA (American Guild of Musical Artists)? If so, which one(s)? Does AGMA have one or more competitors in 2025? Thank already for the answers. Égoïté (talk) 10:11, 16 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]