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[edit]US Constitution: semantics of habeas corpus
[edit]Strictly speaking, is "the privilege of the writ of habeas corpus" referred to in the Constitution a privilege appertaining to the prisoner filing the petition, or to the court issuing the writ? 71.126.56.141 (talk) 12:21, 9 April 2025 (UTC)
- The "privilege" is a "right" for those being detained. It is a privilege/right of the person being detained. It is a responsibility of the courts (and entire legal system) to preserve that privilege/right. 12.116.29.106 (talk) 13:40, 9 April 2025 (UTC)
- There are important distinctions between a privilege and a right. Legal doctrine treats privileges as revocable, conditional, or context-specific; whereas, rights are "inalienable". --136.56.165.118 (talk) 22:01, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- The question is whose privilege it is, the petiitioner's or the court's? (Also, a privilege that cannot be suspended is tantamount to a right. Rights can be forfeited.) ‑‑Lambiam 22:24, 12 April 2025 (UTC)
The Suspension Clause in Article I, Section 9, Clause 2: The Privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it.[1] While the Constitution affirms the right of individuals to challenge the legality of their detention, it does not explicitly affirm a general right to habeas corpus but instead limits Congress's ability to suspend this privilege except under extraordinary circumstances like rebellion or invasion.[2] [3] Note that Congress, under President Lincoln's direction, couldn't suspend this during the Civil War if it were a "right". --136.56.165.118 (talk) 01:04, 13 April 2025 (UTC)Edit: However, case law, such as Boumediene v. Bush (2008), has interpreted the clause as affirmatively guaranteeing prisoners some forum to challenge their detention when the privilege has not been suspended.[4] (01:35, 13 April 2025 (UTC))- Since that is clear as mud, here is an edit revised for accuracy, clarity and brevity (citations above apply).
--136.56.165.118 (talk) 02:09, 13 April 2025 (UTC)The Suspension Clause (Article I, Section 9, Clause 2) states: "The Privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it." This clause does not explicitly grant a general right to habeas corpus but restricts Congress's power to suspend this privilege, allowing suspension only during rebellion or invasion when public safety demands it. Notably, Congress, under President Lincoln's direction, did suspend habeas corpus during the Civil War (1863). However, Supreme Court precedent, notably Boumediene v. Bush (2008), has interpreted the clause as implicitly guaranteeing detainees some means to challenge their detention when the writ has not been formally suspended.
- The question is whose privilege it is, the petiitioner's or the court's? (Also, a privilege that cannot be suspended is tantamount to a right. Rights can be forfeited.) ‑‑Lambiam 22:24, 12 April 2025 (UTC)
- There are important distinctions between a privilege and a right. Legal doctrine treats privileges as revocable, conditional, or context-specific; whereas, rights are "inalienable". --136.56.165.118 (talk) 22:01, 11 April 2025 (UTC)