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January 25

Proclamation of the People's Republic of China

Can anyone show me the name of all people in the image please? Except Mao Zedong ThomasDracoLucitor (talk) 00:05, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The first on the (radical) left could be Liu Shaoqi, beside him is Li Lisan, and Lin Boqu's article says he's the one standing behind Mao. Clarityfiend (talk) 03:06, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

And the guy to Mao's (reactionary) right just might be Sir Not-Quite-Appearing-in-this-Picture. Clarityfiend (talk) 03:18, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The guy in back between Lin Boqu and the Great Steersman: ~~Ye Jianying~~ Lin Biao (from this YouTube video at the 51 second mark)? The guy to his right: Peng Dehuai? Clarityfiend (talk) 03:27, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Also somewhere in this picture, Wa Li, aka Wal Do. Clarityfiend (talk) 03:30, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The bearded gent on the far right looks like Shen Junru. Clarityfiend (talk) 09:01, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The obscured guy behind the paper Mao is holding may be Zhu De, looking at a photo shot from a different spot. Clarityfiend (talk) 09:12, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The Founding Ceremony of the Nation may be of interest. DuncanHill (talk) 10:42, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This page and this page have several photos of the same event taken from different angles, affording clearer views of some of the attendees. --Lambiam 13:29, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Front row from left to right: Wu Yuzhang (吳玉章), Li Lisan (李立三), Lin Boqu (林伯渠), Mao Zedong (毛澤東). Stanleykswong (talk) 09:49, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The guy in the back row between Lin and Mao may be Saifuddin Azizi. Stanleykswong (talk) 09:53, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thrax in Rome?

According to our article Maximinus Thrax, he never entered Rome during his imperial reign. Had he ever been to Rome before his accession? Or did he never set foot in Rome itself during his life? —Amble (talk) 20:11, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Answering my own question: the Historia Augusta says that Maximinus went to Rome to present himself to Alexander Severus after the death of Elagabalus: [1]. —-Amble (talk) 23:35, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Though, as our article on Maximinus Thrax rightly says, the Historia Augusta is "notoriously unreliable". The translator of the Penguin Classics version left out the lives of Maximinus Thrax and of all other emperors after Elagabulus on the grounds that in that half of the Historia "fiction predominates". The 3rd century is an ill-documented period of Roman history and I doubt if you'll find an answer to your question in reliable sources. --Antiquary (talk) 09:19, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, understood that the available sources are unreliable. Given that, I’m satisfied with an in-universe answer. —Amble (talk) 16:53, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thrax was enlisted by Severus as imperial bodyguard ref So it was likely he saw Rome prior to his accession The AP (talk) 10:52, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The site you've linked to tells me that that ebook is unavailable in my country. What's the author's source for the statement that MT was an imperial bodyguard to Severus? --Antiquary (talk) 11:59, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It's probably Historia Augusta, but I would need to check. The AP (talk) 16:17, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, yes, his service under Septimius Severus seems to be while on campaign, and I don’t see it mentioned that Severus brought Thrax back to Rome. But he does put in an appearance at Rome later in the narrative, at least. It would be interesting if any of the barracks emperors are not described as having been in Rome at any point. Although the available sources are unreliable, it would say something about how they were viewed in relation to the city itself. --Amble (talk) 16:53, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]